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Achernar's avatar

I was thinking just the other day that, although I consider myself solidly right-wing, there are plenty of issues where I clearly lean left. These days, this distinction doesn’t even really matter outside certain circles. (I can't say that the internet crowds are sufficiently informed to be taken seriously here.)

I was thinking of the globalist–localist axis, which I think may become more important in the future than the classic left–right divide. And I don’t think it’s necessarily incompatible with the elitist–populist axis either

In any case, I’m going to use this from now on even if it somewhat overlaps with the authoritarian axis, it can be still useful.

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I've long felt that the Authoritarian vs. Libertarian axis is somewhat outdated. If you gave a classic political compass test to 100 progressives, the vast majority would finish deep into the lib-left quadrant, but a lot of the ideas they support are *definitionally* authoritarian, such as on the topic of free speech.

Basically, the Authoritarian vs. Libertarian axis made sense when the cultural left were the outsiders, the rebels. It made sense for a good stretch of time. It doesn't make sense since the cultural left *became* the establishment, which started (at the latest) in the mid-10s. To be fair, the modern right isn't exactly libertarian either, certainly not on law enforcement or border enforcement. So just flipping where people land wouldn't exactly work either. Authoritarian vs. Libertarian simply doesn't justify its own axis any more.

So right off the bat, I like how your idea would replace this old outdated axis with a new one that maps something that's more important currently. I wonder if globalist vs. localist might be more important still, though off the top of my head I can't think of many leftist anti-globalists or rightist pro-globalists. So globalist vs. localist might end up almost pointless, leaving two quadrants near empty.

Elitism vs. populism really does divide both the right and the left. There are populists on both the right and the left. There are pro-free market elitists and pro-socialist elitists. Elitist vs. populist would give us four *real* quadrants.

I'm still not 100% committed to this idea, since a better one might come up, but I certainly prefer your political compass idea over the old one. It would be a good change. Good work!

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